Minutes of 2002 AGM
held on Tuesday 3rd December 2002
at 7.30pm at Portishead Cricket Club
Present:
D Grewcock (Chairman)
R Humphreys (Secretary/Treasurer)
J Waters (U13/U11 Secretary)
A Fishman (Portishead)
D Lee (Optimists & Clifton)
D Turner (WSM)
P Doherty (Wrington)
L Harrison (Bladgon)
G Osborne (Clevedon)
P Holdworth (Barrow Gurney)
K Berridge (Nailsea)
M Robson (Nailsea)
S Dewar (Congresbury)
B Purkiss (Cheddar)
Also present later in meeting:
A Moulding (SCB)
Absent:
Cleeve
Uphill Castle
1. Attendances and apologies were taken. The minutes of the previous meeting held 15th January 2002 (the 2001 AGM) were then read and approved. Matters arising from those minutes were dealt with.
2. The secretary/treasurer then delivered his report (copy report and accounts attached) and the accounts were approved.
3. The treasurer explained that he incurred expenditure of £350 on 10 large weekly advertisements in a local newspaper at a cost of £35 each plus VAT. This had seemed to him to be a useful form of expenditure. The views of members were canvassed as to whether this should be repeated next year and no strong views were expressed. It was left for the treasurer to take a sensible decision.
4. John Waters then delivered his report as U13/U11 secretary (copies attached). There was a discussion of discipline at the younger ages and it was regretted that on a number of occasions this had not been all that might have been expected. One particular game was commented on. In this incident, whatever the rights and wrongs, it was a pity that the managers on the day had been able to take the necessary disciplinary steps to snuff out the difficulties at source.
5. There was a discussion of the application of the LBW rule at U11 level. The League Rule is at the laws of cricket apply save insofar as any may be modified in the League Rules or by agreement by managers on the day. There is nothing in the League Rules disapplying the LBW rule and so, save by agreement otherwise of managers on the day, the LBW law is to be applied. If managers agree on the day to disapply this law, they need to be aware of the consequential effect of this change on other aspects of the game.
6. One of these is the removal of risk to a batsman from taking an off-stump guard. Managers need to be aware of this. It would be open to them to agree that no batsman should be given an off-stump guard.
7. Representative team managers gave their reports. At U13 level John Waters reported that neither the Bath & District League nor the Taunton League had been interested in games and Pembroke had not toured. However, a game was played against the Bristol & District League at Chipping Sodbury. It was an excellent game which the NSYCL had won by 41.
8. The U15 representative manager Adrian Fishman reported that he had received no interest in a game from the Bath & District League. A game had been played against the Bristol & District League away. Again it was an excellent game albeit a loss. Boys from 5 clubs had played. The return game at Portishead had been rained off.
9. No games have been played at U17 level.
10. There was a short discussion of the rules regarding allocation of points. Some points were made as to whether there should be a change but it was felt that they should be left as they are.
11. The secretary canvassed two proposals for possible rule changes. One of these involved a move at U17 level to playing games on an 8 players per side basis. A discussion of this ensued but it was decided to leave the current playing conditions and make no changes.
12. The second proposed rule change involved a tidying up of the contents of rules 13 and 5 by moving some existing text and making a consequential amendment. This proposal was passed and the rules were changed accordingly.
13. Election of officers then took place. The following were re-elected:
Brian Rose (President)
Doug Grewcock (Chairman)
Robert Humphreys (Secretary/Treasurer)
John Waters (U13/U11 Secretary).
14. The following representative team managers were then elected:
Keith Berridge (U17)
Greg Van Laun (U15)
John Waters (U13)
Mark Walker (U11).
15. An application was considered from Barrow Gurney to join the League by entering a U13 side. The application was welcomed and approved.
16. Trophies were brought to the meeting and redistributed. In particular, the U15 knock-out cup had been located by Keith Berridge of Nailsea who kindly brought it to the meeting.
17. John Waters gave a short report on the progress of the NSYCL teams in the national knock-out competitions. The WSM U15 side went a long way in the competition. The Cleeve U13 side also performed creditably but did not go so far.
18. There was a discussion of the practicality of the movement of players between multiple teams entered by one club at a single age group (e.g. Cleeve running 2 U13s sides). It appeared that some players had played for both sides. The discussion was left on the basis that it would have to be up to the manager to act reasonably as it was difficult to formulate a rule which would not have the negative effect of banning some players from participating. However, in cup games the rule remains that a player who has played for one team may not thereafter play for another.
19. Andrew Moulding of the Somerset Cricket Board then gave an interesting presentation on various projects and initiatives, the benefits of which could be of advantage to member clubs. His information was appreciated.
20. There being no further business the meeting was closed at 10.10pm.
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Tuesday, January 15, 2002
Minutes of 2001 Annual General Meeting
held on Tuesday 15th January 2002
(in respect of the 2001 season)
at 7.30 p.m. at Portishead Cricket Club
Present:
D Grewcock (Chairman)
R Humphreys (Secretary and Treasurer)
J Waters (U13/U11 Secretary)
Robin Brees (Clevedon)
Martin Robson (Nailsea)
Lodway C.C.
Keith Berridge (Nailsea)
Hutton C.C.
Derek Turner (WSM)
David Lee (Optimists)
Peter Doherty (Wrington)
Lionel Harrison (Blagdon)
Mike Thome (Cleeve)
Greg Van Laun (Portishead)
Nigel Cook (Uphill Castle)
Dave Banham (Clevedon)
Rick Hutchison (Congresbury)
Luke Parfitt (Cheddar)
Apologies:
Andrew Moulding (SCB)
Winscombe C.C.
Absent: Worle C.C.
1. The minutes of the previous meeting were read and approved.
2. The Secretary and Treasurer delivered his report and accounts (copy attached) and the accounts were accepted.
3. John Waters delivered his report as U13 and Ull Secretary (see attached).
4. Rates for subscriptions/fines were fixed at the same rate as for the previous year.
5. There was a discussion of the new system of allocating points with relation to defaulted games, which had been put into practice for the first year (2001). Points had arisen on the implementation of the new rules and, as always, there were incidents on which the administrative officers of the league had had to take a view. Those present at the meeting stressed that it was incumbent on clubs to make sure that when they enter the league the person running a team is able to fulfil his commitment to play the games. It was recognised, however, that individuals are volunteers doing their best within their limitations and issues are
never black and white.
6. There had been no representative games at U17 level.
7. At U15 level Keith Berridge (Nailsea) reported a win against the Bristol & District League. The NSYCL had made 204 for 7 with R Samsun scoring well. The Bristol & District League had made 81 for 7 (Nick Doherty 2-9). There had also been a win against the North Somerset Academy. The Academy had made 244-4 (E Humphreys 104*) and the NSYCL had made 246-7 (T Excel batting well). Eight league clubs had been represented in this game.
8. At U13 representative 11, John Waters reported that the Bath & District League could not produce a side. The Bristol & District League had to decline a fixture on the grounds of insufficient notice. There had been a win against the North Somerset Academy. The NSYCL had scored 194-8 (D Phillips batting well) and the Academy had been 85 all out.
9. At U11 level John Waters also reported on a win against the North Somerset Academy.
10. The efforts of the representative managers during the year were greatly appreciated.
11. The following volunteered to be representative team managers for 2002:
U17s: Sue Edwards (Wrington) (assisted by Keith Berridge)
U15s: Adrian Fishman (Portishead)
U13s: John Waters (Nailsea)
U11s: Greg Van Laun (Portishead)
12. Cleeve asked whether there would be scope during 2002 for entering B sides in the league. A full discussion took place. It was determined that the relevant secretary would accept entries from youth organisers of their clubs' B sides provided that these had proper management and appeared likely (at the discretion of the relevant secretary) to be able to fulfil its fixtures.
13. There was a discussion of the rules which could apply to the composition of an A side and a B side from the same club and it was left to the Secretary to formulate a rule as considered best balancing the interests of both clubs seeking to win their relevant divisions and rule 15 (the aim being to play cricket). It was pointed out by the Secretary, though, it might not be possible to frame a rule which was more than a general guide, leaving the onus of implementation on the managers concerned.
14. It was determined that the U11 rules be altered by deleting references to U13s.
15. The Secretary reminded the meeting that the handbook had not reflected the change made at the last AGM to rule 7 in respect of Barrington rules being the preferred option for U11s. This change was to be introduced into the rules for 2002.
16. There being no further business the meeting closed at 9.05 p.m.
Chairman .............................. Dated 2002 .........................
held on Tuesday 15th January 2002
(in respect of the 2001 season)
at 7.30 p.m. at Portishead Cricket Club
Present:
D Grewcock (Chairman)
R Humphreys (Secretary and Treasurer)
J Waters (U13/U11 Secretary)
Robin Brees (Clevedon)
Martin Robson (Nailsea)
Lodway C.C.
Keith Berridge (Nailsea)
Hutton C.C.
Derek Turner (WSM)
David Lee (Optimists)
Peter Doherty (Wrington)
Lionel Harrison (Blagdon)
Mike Thome (Cleeve)
Greg Van Laun (Portishead)
Nigel Cook (Uphill Castle)
Dave Banham (Clevedon)
Rick Hutchison (Congresbury)
Luke Parfitt (Cheddar)
Apologies:
Andrew Moulding (SCB)
Winscombe C.C.
Absent: Worle C.C.
1. The minutes of the previous meeting were read and approved.
2. The Secretary and Treasurer delivered his report and accounts (copy attached) and the accounts were accepted.
3. John Waters delivered his report as U13 and Ull Secretary (see attached).
4. Rates for subscriptions/fines were fixed at the same rate as for the previous year.
5. There was a discussion of the new system of allocating points with relation to defaulted games, which had been put into practice for the first year (2001). Points had arisen on the implementation of the new rules and, as always, there were incidents on which the administrative officers of the league had had to take a view. Those present at the meeting stressed that it was incumbent on clubs to make sure that when they enter the league the person running a team is able to fulfil his commitment to play the games. It was recognised, however, that individuals are volunteers doing their best within their limitations and issues are
never black and white.
6. There had been no representative games at U17 level.
7. At U15 level Keith Berridge (Nailsea) reported a win against the Bristol & District League. The NSYCL had made 204 for 7 with R Samsun scoring well. The Bristol & District League had made 81 for 7 (Nick Doherty 2-9). There had also been a win against the North Somerset Academy. The Academy had made 244-4 (E Humphreys 104*) and the NSYCL had made 246-7 (T Excel batting well). Eight league clubs had been represented in this game.
8. At U13 representative 11, John Waters reported that the Bath & District League could not produce a side. The Bristol & District League had to decline a fixture on the grounds of insufficient notice. There had been a win against the North Somerset Academy. The NSYCL had scored 194-8 (D Phillips batting well) and the Academy had been 85 all out.
9. At U11 level John Waters also reported on a win against the North Somerset Academy.
10. The efforts of the representative managers during the year were greatly appreciated.
11. The following volunteered to be representative team managers for 2002:
U17s: Sue Edwards (Wrington) (assisted by Keith Berridge)
U15s: Adrian Fishman (Portishead)
U13s: John Waters (Nailsea)
U11s: Greg Van Laun (Portishead)
12. Cleeve asked whether there would be scope during 2002 for entering B sides in the league. A full discussion took place. It was determined that the relevant secretary would accept entries from youth organisers of their clubs' B sides provided that these had proper management and appeared likely (at the discretion of the relevant secretary) to be able to fulfil its fixtures.
13. There was a discussion of the rules which could apply to the composition of an A side and a B side from the same club and it was left to the Secretary to formulate a rule as considered best balancing the interests of both clubs seeking to win their relevant divisions and rule 15 (the aim being to play cricket). It was pointed out by the Secretary, though, it might not be possible to frame a rule which was more than a general guide, leaving the onus of implementation on the managers concerned.
14. It was determined that the U11 rules be altered by deleting references to U13s.
15. The Secretary reminded the meeting that the handbook had not reflected the change made at the last AGM to rule 7 in respect of Barrington rules being the preferred option for U11s. This change was to be introduced into the rules for 2002.
16. There being no further business the meeting closed at 9.05 p.m.
Chairman .............................. Dated 2002 .........................
Monday, January 14, 2002
2001 League Secretary's Report
Once again I am pleased to report that an enormous amount of what the professionals call “recreational” cricket (otherwise known as “real cricket”) was played up in the North Somerset area under the aegis of the league. Star performers in this respect were the clubs’ youth organisers: Lionel Harrison (Blagdon), Ken Langford (Cheddar), Bill Woodley (Claverham), Mike Thorne (Cleave), Robin Brees (Clevedon), Stuart Dewer (Congresbury), Mary Martin/Brian Peat (Hutton), Simon Hopkinson (Nailsea), David Lee (Optimists), Adrian Fishman (Portishead), Nigel Cook (Uphill Castle), Derek Turner (WSM), Peter Short (Worle), Peter Doherty (Wrington) and Mark Walker and others (Failand & Portbury).
The U17 division was back up to a reasonable strength after several lean years on numbers. The top four teams were a long way ahead of the rest and Uphill Castle emerged well-deserved winners with an unbeaten record. This was their first trophy at any level and well done indeed to those at the club who work so hard at youth cricket. Players to feature with good performances (and remember that the best players at most clubs do not necessarily always do all the batting and all the bowling) included J Davidson, C Davidson, E Bliss and A Gardener (Uphill Castle), H Hanchet, P Hart, G & A Vaughan, G Humphreys and A Chapman (Failand & Portbury), A Blower, J Wilcox, D Booth, A Bamber, A Robson, and M Ashfold (Nailsea) and P Ball, M Weaver, W Stafford and S Green (WSM).
Uphill Castle also collected the trophy as U17 cup winners overcoming Nailsea in a tight game to secure the double. Double congratulations to them. Winners of the U15 cup final were Nailsea who defeated Old Bristolians to go on to the county stages of the Sun Life of Canada National knockout competition.
Nailsea looked odds on to win the U15 league outright as well but Uphill Castle kept plugging away and when Nailsea were unable to get an early season game which they had defaulted replayed, the two clubs finished level on points and shared the trophy. Well done to Nailsea, joint league winners the previous year, and well done also to Uphill Castle for adding a half share in some more silverware to this season’s haul. Regular performers on the field for the clubs in this division were: M Berridge, A Robson and R Baker (Nailsea), J Davidson, A Dodgson and C Davidson (Uphill Castle), J Samsum, D Van Grudgings, S Wheeler and L Whittaker (Clevedon), G Howse, S Ahmed and J Lane (WSM), N King (Cheddar), E Humphreys, J Sykes and D Chapman (F&P), N Doherty and C Dunning (Wrington), A Gooding and B Leadbetter (Optimists).
John Waters will report separately on the progress of the U13s and U11s.
The feature of the year from the administrative side was the radical change to the points scoring approach agreed at the last AGM. Under this, for the first time ever, points were awarded (and forfeited) in cases where clubs defaulted on fixtures. It was recognised at the last AGM that the change might lead to some increased pressure on administrators (with possible differing versions of events leading up to a default) and with perhaps a loss of incentive to replay games missed first time round. However, the perceived benefits included pressure on clubs to play on the required date not on other dates which suited them or their league aspirations better; also finite ends to the season for hard pressed managers who all too often faced a seemingly endless late summer of asking or being asked to play rearranged games.
Clubs’ views on how the new system worked out in practice would be welcome. Purely personally, I thought that in the U17 and U15 divisions it was a successful experiment. I think it resulted in more games being played.
During the course of the year I transferred £2,001 to a deposit account with Sun Bank which offered a higher rate of interest than is offered by our current account at HSBC. For several years I have been trying to find a bank willing to take an account in the name of an association of clubs (the league) (i.e. neither an individual nor a limited company nor a partnership) and when the ECB circulated details of Sun Bank’s facility I thought it best to take the opportunity of higher interest without further market investigations. In the event, because interest rates are so low the interest generated is negligible but in the future when rates rise again some extra income should be produced.
Great appreciation is due to John Waters for the enormous work put in by him during the year once again as U11/U13 secretary, to the clubs (and their groundsmen) who kindly offered use of their grounds for cup finals at no charge, to umpires who stood on the same basis, to chairman Doug Grewcock for his every present sanity and last but no means least to the long standing sponsors of the league’s handbook Westcountry Groundcare (specialist sports ground maintenance, domestic and commercial grass cutting, landscaping and fencing: call Rod Cooper now on 07860 517 290).
14th January 2002
R A Humphreys
Hon. Secretary
Once again I am pleased to report that an enormous amount of what the professionals call “recreational” cricket (otherwise known as “real cricket”) was played up in the North Somerset area under the aegis of the league. Star performers in this respect were the clubs’ youth organisers: Lionel Harrison (Blagdon), Ken Langford (Cheddar), Bill Woodley (Claverham), Mike Thorne (Cleave), Robin Brees (Clevedon), Stuart Dewer (Congresbury), Mary Martin/Brian Peat (Hutton), Simon Hopkinson (Nailsea), David Lee (Optimists), Adrian Fishman (Portishead), Nigel Cook (Uphill Castle), Derek Turner (WSM), Peter Short (Worle), Peter Doherty (Wrington) and Mark Walker and others (Failand & Portbury).
The U17 division was back up to a reasonable strength after several lean years on numbers. The top four teams were a long way ahead of the rest and Uphill Castle emerged well-deserved winners with an unbeaten record. This was their first trophy at any level and well done indeed to those at the club who work so hard at youth cricket. Players to feature with good performances (and remember that the best players at most clubs do not necessarily always do all the batting and all the bowling) included J Davidson, C Davidson, E Bliss and A Gardener (Uphill Castle), H Hanchet, P Hart, G & A Vaughan, G Humphreys and A Chapman (Failand & Portbury), A Blower, J Wilcox, D Booth, A Bamber, A Robson, and M Ashfold (Nailsea) and P Ball, M Weaver, W Stafford and S Green (WSM).
Uphill Castle also collected the trophy as U17 cup winners overcoming Nailsea in a tight game to secure the double. Double congratulations to them. Winners of the U15 cup final were Nailsea who defeated Old Bristolians to go on to the county stages of the Sun Life of Canada National knockout competition.
Nailsea looked odds on to win the U15 league outright as well but Uphill Castle kept plugging away and when Nailsea were unable to get an early season game which they had defaulted replayed, the two clubs finished level on points and shared the trophy. Well done to Nailsea, joint league winners the previous year, and well done also to Uphill Castle for adding a half share in some more silverware to this season’s haul. Regular performers on the field for the clubs in this division were: M Berridge, A Robson and R Baker (Nailsea), J Davidson, A Dodgson and C Davidson (Uphill Castle), J Samsum, D Van Grudgings, S Wheeler and L Whittaker (Clevedon), G Howse, S Ahmed and J Lane (WSM), N King (Cheddar), E Humphreys, J Sykes and D Chapman (F&P), N Doherty and C Dunning (Wrington), A Gooding and B Leadbetter (Optimists).
John Waters will report separately on the progress of the U13s and U11s.
The feature of the year from the administrative side was the radical change to the points scoring approach agreed at the last AGM. Under this, for the first time ever, points were awarded (and forfeited) in cases where clubs defaulted on fixtures. It was recognised at the last AGM that the change might lead to some increased pressure on administrators (with possible differing versions of events leading up to a default) and with perhaps a loss of incentive to replay games missed first time round. However, the perceived benefits included pressure on clubs to play on the required date not on other dates which suited them or their league aspirations better; also finite ends to the season for hard pressed managers who all too often faced a seemingly endless late summer of asking or being asked to play rearranged games.
Clubs’ views on how the new system worked out in practice would be welcome. Purely personally, I thought that in the U17 and U15 divisions it was a successful experiment. I think it resulted in more games being played.
During the course of the year I transferred £2,001 to a deposit account with Sun Bank which offered a higher rate of interest than is offered by our current account at HSBC. For several years I have been trying to find a bank willing to take an account in the name of an association of clubs (the league) (i.e. neither an individual nor a limited company nor a partnership) and when the ECB circulated details of Sun Bank’s facility I thought it best to take the opportunity of higher interest without further market investigations. In the event, because interest rates are so low the interest generated is negligible but in the future when rates rise again some extra income should be produced.
Great appreciation is due to John Waters for the enormous work put in by him during the year once again as U11/U13 secretary, to the clubs (and their groundsmen) who kindly offered use of their grounds for cup finals at no charge, to umpires who stood on the same basis, to chairman Doug Grewcock for his every present sanity and last but no means least to the long standing sponsors of the league’s handbook Westcountry Groundcare (specialist sports ground maintenance, domestic and commercial grass cutting, landscaping and fencing: call Rod Cooper now on 07860 517 290).
14th January 2002
R A Humphreys
Hon. Secretary
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